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Is Jonah From The Bible The First Ever Recorded-Near-Death Experience? Part 2

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Is Jonah From The Bible The First Ever Recorded-Near-Death Experience? Part 2

  1. O LORD, thou hast brought up my {d} soul from the grave: thou hast kept me alive, that I should not go down to the pit.
  2. (d) Meaning, that he escaped death most narrowly. 
  3.  Here are some comments on this subject from my good Christian friends. Read their interesting and differing views below: 
  4. From Pastor Roger. 
  5. Dear Simon
  6. God's whole purpose in providing the great fish was to rescue Jonah and deliver him unharmed and alive to carry out his mission to Ninevah.
  7. By the way, did you know that the blood vessels in a Blue Whale are large enough for a man to swim in.
  8. God bless Roger
  9. From Simon
  10. Thanks Roger. Yes Roger I agree. 
  11. But are we not forgetting a very important fact here. In the beginning Jonah refused to carry out his mission to Ninevah. Jonah back slid and was disobedient to God. He was willing to lose his own life rather then obey Gods commands.  
  12. For this reason I believe God gave him a taste of HELL. To teach him a lesson before raising him back to life. 
  13. Similar to why the Lord God has given many people a vision of heaven and others of hell with a Near-Death Experience so that they might repent and turn to Him and be saved. 
  14. Also as Derek States in his article - Jonah 2 v7: "When my soul fainted within me (when he died), I remembered. 
  15. Also Perry Stone teaches that Jonah DID DIE and go to HADES. 
  16. And yes I do believe that Blue Whales are large enough for a man to swim in. This doesn't surprise me. For Whales are massive. 
  17. Even so do you really believe a man could survive for 3 days in a whale? - AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA?
  18. God Bless 
  19. Simon
  20. From Pastor Roger
  21. Dear Simon
  22. Just another thought - in all cases where God has brought a person back from the dead He makes it very clear in the Bible that they actually died, no doubts at all, so that the resurrection is clearly seen as His sovereign work and that He gets the glory.  The fact that with Jonah it does not state that Jonah died suggests that he did not die.
  23. I would strongly advise you again not to publish your article.   As a matter of interest I was speaking to 100 mature Christians last night at a meeting and without mentioning you or anyone else I asked if anyone thought Jonah had died in the fish - not one believed it.
  24. Best wishes
  25. Roger
  26. From Bob Bible teacher

    Hi Si, 

    Well I am happy to stand alone.  

    I'll only go by what the word actually says. It never says Jonah died. Also although Jonah did say (Jonah 2:2)" ..., I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of Sheol cried I, [and] thou heardest my voice.", this does not have to mean an actual death.  

    Yes the word Sheol is used many times of a physical location, the abode of the dead.  

    But it is also often used to describe a state of dread or feeling as if you could die. Psalm 116:3 says, "The sorrows of death compassed me, and the pains of Sheol got hold upon me: I found trouble and sorrow." Also, "For great [is] thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest Sheol.( Psalm 86:13 )" I don't think that David was actually dead before he wrote this psalm.

    Blessings...looking forward to seeing you guys.
     

    Bob

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  28. From Bob Bible teacher

    Hi Si, 

    Don't want to spend too much time on this. But I still believe Jonah was alive. 

    Was Hezekiah dead when he prayed:  

    Isa 38:17

    Behold, for peace I had great bitterness: but thou hast in love to my soul delivered it from the pit of corruption: for thou hast cast all my sins behind thy back.

    Jonah says

    Jon 2:1

    Jon 2:2 

    This is the language of the hebrews psalms. It is poetic. Someone does a good deed for you and you say thanks you saved my life. You don't really mean they saved your life. It is poetic.

    And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.   Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish's belly,

    It was common in Hebrew poetry to liken being low in spirit (pining away) to death.

    If Jonah was dead then he was given a second chance which raises all kinds of problems.  

    Why wasn't the rich man given a second chance if God is just and fair?

    Si This is Jewish poetry. A psalm if you like from a man who was as good as dead in a fishes belly...no hope of getting out.    

    I chat to my lovely mother-in-law and ask her how she is. If she is really tired she says Bobby I am dead! So is she really? No it's a poetic way of saying how tired she really is.  

    Anyway see you later. 

    Bob


  29. From Pastor DEREK

    Dear Simon

    The issue ultimately depends on whether you take Jonah 2:1,6 literally or figuratively.

    As you point out these verses literally say he died and went to the realm of the dead. I go by the principle of interpretation that you take it literally unless doing that makes no sense and it is a clear figure of speech (eg; 'it is raining cats and dogs').  This is the only way to stay submitted to scripture for if we spiritualise scriptures that make sense literally we are putting ourselves above scripture.  But I can't see any theological objection to Jonah dying or any reason why it makes no sense.  I must admit that when this was first suggested to me years ago I initially thought it was fanciful but after studying Jonah 2 I saw it was plainly there as a historical record.  BTW Psalm 116 is a Messianic Psalm (see also 2Corinthians 4:13,14) which was fulfilled literally by Christ. 

    There are 2 confirmations: (1) Jonah 2:5,6 clearly says that he sank to the ocean floor before the fish picked him up which means he certainly came to the point of death

    (2) As you point out it strengthens the Type.   If Jonah did not die then the type correspondence is simply that Jesus was physically hidden in the grave 3 days just as Jonah was physically hidden in the fish 3 days, which is weak and means 'the heart of the earth' is not taken literally. But surely 'the heart of the earth = sheol.'  Bottom line - if Jonah died then the Typology works in a much more satisfying way.

    many blessings

    Derek

  30. I am Simon Brown, thank you for reading this article.
  31. Dear friends do you know the Lord Jesus yet? Time is running out FAST in this evil world.   
          
    God is always listening, and he will be there for you when you choose to speak to him. God's there, listening for all who pray,
          for all who pray and mean it.
    Psalm 145:18, The Message (MSG)
  32.    All I ask is that you don’t wait UNTIL IT IS TOO LATE. CLICK HERE and watch this video and Surrender Your Heart To God because He Loves YOU AND WILL SAVE YOUR SOUL. 
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  • The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 53:1

  • Thank you for reading this article. May the Lord God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob bless those who seek him. In Jesus name we pray. Simon and Emma Brown 
     

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